senthil1
07-28 01:20 PM
Problem is not with compaign to get more spill over visa for EB3. Can you impress USCIS/DOS to get this done. What support EB3 has outside(like companies,lawyers) for this compaign. EB2 supposed to have more skills than EB3 according to DOS/USCIS. So if you argue that EB3 and EB2 are same then they will not accept it. If you impress somehow they will just investigate the entire EB process and try to find the truth. That time many other issues may come up.
Also if many persons think that EB2 and EB3 are the same level then it makes sense to combine both and add the numbers. Will it be possible? Point system will resolve these issues but that also was not welcomed by most IV members when last CIR was in discussion
Anyhow if all EB3 persons send a letter to DOS/USCIS EB2 persons are not going to prevent it. But wordings in the letter should be careful such that it should not create a problem for entire EB process.
What exactly is the point of this rambling debate? Does anybody really thinks he/she can make an EB2 see the point of view of EB3 or vice-a-versa? No amount of legal/moral/philosophical arguments is going to convince the other party and we all know it.
All this debate has done is to bring out the ugliest side of all of us to the surface. There are EB2s claiming every EB2 is by definition superior than EB3 which is insane. And there is an EB3 who is itching to take help of none other than Ron Hira to shot down somebody's GC application as a retribution and couple of people applauding him for the brilliant idea! Really? Do we really thinks this is such a grand idea?
Just accept that everyone's only guiding principle here is self interest and move along. No need to jump through hoops to interpret the immigration law in 101 different ways and no need to call attention to personal suffering and plight. If we do really believe personal suffering should take precedence over everything else on humanitarian grounds then lets all first fight for illegal immigrants since their suffering is much worse than anyone here!
EB3s, go run your campaign and stop trying to appeal to EB2's sense of justice. That will never happen.
EB2s, stop trying to expect EB3s will accept higher EB preference categories should in fact get preference over the lower ones. That will never happen.
The only thing we all can hopefully agree on is, if there is anyone here - doesn't matter EB2 or EB3- who is fiercely debating this but has never contributed to IV and has never participated in any of the previous IV action items in the past that person should just shut up! If you were never active in IV you shouldn't really be talking at this point!!
Also if many persons think that EB2 and EB3 are the same level then it makes sense to combine both and add the numbers. Will it be possible? Point system will resolve these issues but that also was not welcomed by most IV members when last CIR was in discussion
Anyhow if all EB3 persons send a letter to DOS/USCIS EB2 persons are not going to prevent it. But wordings in the letter should be careful such that it should not create a problem for entire EB process.
What exactly is the point of this rambling debate? Does anybody really thinks he/she can make an EB2 see the point of view of EB3 or vice-a-versa? No amount of legal/moral/philosophical arguments is going to convince the other party and we all know it.
All this debate has done is to bring out the ugliest side of all of us to the surface. There are EB2s claiming every EB2 is by definition superior than EB3 which is insane. And there is an EB3 who is itching to take help of none other than Ron Hira to shot down somebody's GC application as a retribution and couple of people applauding him for the brilliant idea! Really? Do we really thinks this is such a grand idea?
Just accept that everyone's only guiding principle here is self interest and move along. No need to jump through hoops to interpret the immigration law in 101 different ways and no need to call attention to personal suffering and plight. If we do really believe personal suffering should take precedence over everything else on humanitarian grounds then lets all first fight for illegal immigrants since their suffering is much worse than anyone here!
EB3s, go run your campaign and stop trying to appeal to EB2's sense of justice. That will never happen.
EB2s, stop trying to expect EB3s will accept higher EB preference categories should in fact get preference over the lower ones. That will never happen.
The only thing we all can hopefully agree on is, if there is anyone here - doesn't matter EB2 or EB3- who is fiercely debating this but has never contributed to IV and has never participated in any of the previous IV action items in the past that person should just shut up! If you were never active in IV you shouldn't really be talking at this point!!
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man-woman-and-gc
09-16 12:02 PM
Someone reading the thread for the first time should be able to figure out what the plan is.
man-woman-gc.. can you start a new thread, since you're the one maintaining the spreadsheet?
GCSTATUS...Can u please update the First Post...can u plz paste the text detailing what we are doing here...people looking at this thread for the first time may not be able to readl all the posts..
man-woman-gc.. can you start a new thread, since you're the one maintaining the spreadsheet?
GCSTATUS...Can u please update the First Post...can u plz paste the text detailing what we are doing here...people looking at this thread for the first time may not be able to readl all the posts..
seahawks
09-23 08:13 PM
I guess one strategy would be only to file for principal applicants, get green cards, become citizens and then sponsor dependents would be a faster route than waiting through the EB route:) Just kidding.
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sroyc
11-21 03:48 AM
Sorry to hear about your situation. I would suggest that you talk to a good immigration lawyer about this.
In the worst case scenario, if your wife has an EAD she can try to find a job and ask her company to sponsor an H-1B.
I hope things take a turn for the better for you and your family.
Gurus,
I have a unique position. couple of weeks back I was told that have fatal cancer and won't live pass 4-6 months. After recovering from initial shock I am wondering if my wife will be able to continue her american dream or she will have to head home after me.
I have filed 485 with approved 140 back in june, 2007 with PD of March, 2003
Please help.
Mehul
In the worst case scenario, if your wife has an EAD she can try to find a job and ask her company to sponsor an H-1B.
I hope things take a turn for the better for you and your family.
Gurus,
I have a unique position. couple of weeks back I was told that have fatal cancer and won't live pass 4-6 months. After recovering from initial shock I am wondering if my wife will be able to continue her american dream or she will have to head home after me.
I have filed 485 with approved 140 back in june, 2007 with PD of March, 2003
Please help.
Mehul
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my2cents
05-23 09:07 AM
You can not really change point based system and u can not ask for that..they are the policy makers..they are responsible for there own country.
We should only ask
- Clear the backlog for EB people as FB without country quota
- Allow all backlogged people to continue on old system (h1b renewal/3 year extension until date of enactment.
If all backlogged is cleared then for merit based people..
- There is no LC or PERM..u can file adjsutment of status just as canada or Australia. ur PD will be current as backlogged is being cleared.You can continue to enjoy AC-21 after I-485.
- You don't need H1b renewal 1 year or 3 year..
"FOUCS ON CLEAR THE BACKLOG FOR ALL PEOPLE WHO ARE PENDING AS OR BEFORE ENACT THE LAW"
in BTW i called the senators.
We should only ask
- Clear the backlog for EB people as FB without country quota
- Allow all backlogged people to continue on old system (h1b renewal/3 year extension until date of enactment.
If all backlogged is cleared then for merit based people..
- There is no LC or PERM..u can file adjsutment of status just as canada or Australia. ur PD will be current as backlogged is being cleared.You can continue to enjoy AC-21 after I-485.
- You don't need H1b renewal 1 year or 3 year..
"FOUCS ON CLEAR THE BACKLOG FOR ALL PEOPLE WHO ARE PENDING AS OR BEFORE ENACT THE LAW"
in BTW i called the senators.
rsharma
09-24 07:51 AM
Careful my friend. Porting rules will be as tough as the rules for applying in Eb2. If you make porting difficult, you will set a higher standard for the approval of your application in Eb2 ending up with the possible rejection of yours and other Eb2 applications.
Why would you want to stop someone eligible to apply in Eb2? If someone has met all the criteria, the same criteria you had to fulfill when applying in Eb2, then what is the problem?
Consider the scenario:
Two guys (A and B) come to US in 2005, both do not have MS and experience less than 5 years. Therefore both not elligible for EB2 on 2005. They are from a retrogressed country.
A does MS and joins job in 2007, becomes eligible for EB2 and files GC on 2007.
B joins a job on 2005 that do not need MS and experience and files for EB3.
Till 2010 both of them did not get GC. But B crossed 5 years of experience and from EB3 to EB2. Now B's priority date is 2005, although he was not elligible for EB2 at that time.
Although A was elligible for EB2 in 2007 earlier than B (2010), A is pushed behind B.
SHould it be acceptable to people like A? And there is not one or two pleale like B, thousands arer doing that?
If you see my priority date you will understand I am not saying this for myself. I have a bro and friends who are facing this isssue.
Therefore EB2s who are from mid 2006 onwards will really get pushed back..
I see this porting simillar to the labor substitition.. Till it was in place it was legal although thousands bought labors and that is one main reason EB2 had retrogressed back to 2000. I predict simillar thing is happending again, people are paying money to the desi employers to file perm in EB2 again pretty soon same tertrogression will happen to EB2 I if any urgent action is not taken.
I hace passed this stage.. now its for you all to decide..
Why would you want to stop someone eligible to apply in Eb2? If someone has met all the criteria, the same criteria you had to fulfill when applying in Eb2, then what is the problem?
Consider the scenario:
Two guys (A and B) come to US in 2005, both do not have MS and experience less than 5 years. Therefore both not elligible for EB2 on 2005. They are from a retrogressed country.
A does MS and joins job in 2007, becomes eligible for EB2 and files GC on 2007.
B joins a job on 2005 that do not need MS and experience and files for EB3.
Till 2010 both of them did not get GC. But B crossed 5 years of experience and from EB3 to EB2. Now B's priority date is 2005, although he was not elligible for EB2 at that time.
Although A was elligible for EB2 in 2007 earlier than B (2010), A is pushed behind B.
SHould it be acceptable to people like A? And there is not one or two pleale like B, thousands arer doing that?
If you see my priority date you will understand I am not saying this for myself. I have a bro and friends who are facing this isssue.
Therefore EB2s who are from mid 2006 onwards will really get pushed back..
I see this porting simillar to the labor substitition.. Till it was in place it was legal although thousands bought labors and that is one main reason EB2 had retrogressed back to 2000. I predict simillar thing is happending again, people are paying money to the desi employers to file perm in EB2 again pretty soon same tertrogression will happen to EB2 I if any urgent action is not taken.
I hace passed this stage.. now its for you all to decide..
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renjuzone
07-03 08:54 AM
Use this post for any media coverage
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showpost.php?p=97398&postcount=10
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showpost.php?p=97398&postcount=10
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needhelp!
09-16 12:00 PM
Someone reading the thread for the first time should be able to figure out what the plan is.
man-woman-gc.. can you start a new thread, since you're the one maintaining the spreadsheet?
man-woman-gc.. can you start a new thread, since you're the one maintaining the spreadsheet?
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paragpujara
01-07 08:13 AM
I also did the same thing. I got the scan copies from my lawyer. Print out will work (IO will verify yr name on receipt with yr photo Id).
Good Luck and lemme know if you need any further help.
Thanks Parag, your post is helpful.
One quick question - I do not have original 485 receipts with me but have scanned copies of them which my lawyer has emailed me. If I print them out and take them to the infopass, is that sufficient or do they ask for the original receipts?
Thanks and good luck ahead!
Good Luck and lemme know if you need any further help.
Thanks Parag, your post is helpful.
One quick question - I do not have original 485 receipts with me but have scanned copies of them which my lawyer has emailed me. If I print them out and take them to the infopass, is that sufficient or do they ask for the original receipts?
Thanks and good luck ahead!
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purplehazea
06-26 10:47 AM
Hi Jamie,
I do not think anyone should doubt the hard work and sincerity of illegal immigrants - be they mexican or any other nationality. All these folks come to USA seeking a better life. It is a fact that politicians have used illegal immigration to their advantage - how it suits them at a particular point in time. SO I do respect the hard working nature and contribution of illegal immigration.
However you will have to appreciate that the government's policy of grouping legal and illegal immigrants in any legistative decision has proven to be a nightmare for the legal immigrants. You will also appreciate that issues and circumstances surrounding legal immigrants are substantially different from illegal immigrant issues. However legal immigrants have to face the brunt of retrogression and other processing delays due to:
1) A nonsensical approach of first letting illegal immigrants to work here, not giving them their rights for long years or enforcing the laws to deport them and then suddenly legalizing the illegals, without improving INS/DHS processes or infrastructure/Visa quotas.
2) Prospects of another huge influx of legalization which as we all know, the INS is not capable of processing with its existing operational capabilities.
I am hopeful that whatever law emerges in the next year or two should handle illegal and legal issues separately. As far as xenophobia towards hispanics, everybody has their own view, so you cannot unfairly generalize that Indians have this racism towards mexican illegals. Personally, I do not have a problem with people expressing their ethnic identity, but as we know everybody need not think like us and everybody is entitled to an opinion.
Good luck and please continue to work for relief for legal immigrant community.
I do not think anyone should doubt the hard work and sincerity of illegal immigrants - be they mexican or any other nationality. All these folks come to USA seeking a better life. It is a fact that politicians have used illegal immigration to their advantage - how it suits them at a particular point in time. SO I do respect the hard working nature and contribution of illegal immigration.
However you will have to appreciate that the government's policy of grouping legal and illegal immigrants in any legistative decision has proven to be a nightmare for the legal immigrants. You will also appreciate that issues and circumstances surrounding legal immigrants are substantially different from illegal immigrant issues. However legal immigrants have to face the brunt of retrogression and other processing delays due to:
1) A nonsensical approach of first letting illegal immigrants to work here, not giving them their rights for long years or enforcing the laws to deport them and then suddenly legalizing the illegals, without improving INS/DHS processes or infrastructure/Visa quotas.
2) Prospects of another huge influx of legalization which as we all know, the INS is not capable of processing with its existing operational capabilities.
I am hopeful that whatever law emerges in the next year or two should handle illegal and legal issues separately. As far as xenophobia towards hispanics, everybody has their own view, so you cannot unfairly generalize that Indians have this racism towards mexican illegals. Personally, I do not have a problem with people expressing their ethnic identity, but as we know everybody need not think like us and everybody is entitled to an opinion.
Good luck and please continue to work for relief for legal immigrant community.
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chanduy9
07-10 11:17 AM
If you ordered your flowers through FTD, can you check your status and let me know which delivery company (UPS, Fedex etc) they are using for your order and what is the status of your order?
The delivery company is ups..below are the details...
Tracking Detail | Help
Your package is on time with a scheduled delivery date of 07/10/2007.
Tracking Number: 1Z 31E 8R6 03 0022 484 6
Type: Package
Status: In Transit
Scheduled Delivery: 07/10/2007
Shipped To: WASHINGTON, DC, US
Shipped/Billed On: 07/09/2007
Service: GROUND
Weight: 5.00 Lbs
The delivery company is ups..below are the details...
Tracking Detail | Help
Your package is on time with a scheduled delivery date of 07/10/2007.
Tracking Number: 1Z 31E 8R6 03 0022 484 6
Type: Package
Status: In Transit
Scheduled Delivery: 07/10/2007
Shipped To: WASHINGTON, DC, US
Shipped/Billed On: 07/09/2007
Service: GROUND
Weight: 5.00 Lbs
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gc_lover
07-03 07:20 AM
It is good to know that there are a few willing to do something about this!
But we need more people!
Even about 50 people is a good start! Come on people... spare a few minutes and take part in this protest!
Don't go on with your lives as if nothing happened and don't think that nothing will happen!
Most of us come from the land of Gandhiji... most of us have forgotten what that one little man achieved! But the fact is he couldn't have achieved everything that he did if the people of India didn't believe!
So start to believe people! You can make a difference!
Instead, lets "go postal" on USCIS
But we need more people!
Even about 50 people is a good start! Come on people... spare a few minutes and take part in this protest!
Don't go on with your lives as if nothing happened and don't think that nothing will happen!
Most of us come from the land of Gandhiji... most of us have forgotten what that one little man achieved! But the fact is he couldn't have achieved everything that he did if the people of India didn't believe!
So start to believe people! You can make a difference!
Instead, lets "go postal" on USCIS
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gccovet
07-24 04:01 PM
you are aware that you can get temporary ead issued from local uscis office if its taking more than 90 days for ead to arrive?
Hi,
That's called intrim EAD, which, I have mixed feelings about, somewhere I read , USCIS stopped providing intrim ead july 2006.
But somewhere (i don't have a link) I read they started again. I guess, I will try to get infopass and see how it goes.
Thanks though.
GCCovet
Hi,
That's called intrim EAD, which, I have mixed feelings about, somewhere I read , USCIS stopped providing intrim ead july 2006.
But somewhere (i don't have a link) I read they started again. I guess, I will try to get infopass and see how it goes.
Thanks though.
GCCovet
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amitjoey
05-25 04:30 PM
Thanks to all of those new people who are writing and calling senators. Please keep up the good work. Please also help people around you (H1-B, F1, L1) understand what is happening in the senate.
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zoooom
07-19 07:39 PM
Done
Also..How can we let other members know that a thread like this exists...
Also..How can we let other members know that a thread like this exists...
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admin
05-06 03:55 PM
Another warning. We will not tolerate flaming wars or denigrating posts.
Can't we work together civilly for this? The illegal aliens speak in one voice and are more easily heard. While immigrants who are supposed to be "highly educated" like us have to fight within ourselves over every issue.
If you find some bad post, report it to us by clicking on the exclamation mark symbol. Don't retort.
Can't we work together civilly for this? The illegal aliens speak in one voice and are more easily heard. While immigrants who are supposed to be "highly educated" like us have to fight within ourselves over every issue.
If you find some bad post, report it to us by clicking on the exclamation mark symbol. Don't retort.
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This will really help. Simple things like posting on various web site forums about IV will be great
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Done
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VMH_GC
07-09 04:32 PM
Thanks gcForV,
Am ready to send emails to major newspaper organisations and show hosts.
This website has links of most of the talk show hosts. Right click on the individual email links to get address.
http://www.conservativeusa.org/megalink.htm
Subject: Flowers to Convey Hopes and Concerns of Skilled, Legal Immigrants
Dear ****,
I would like to get to your attention the peaceful campaign of Hundreds of legal, highly-skilled workers, who feel disappointed by the recent "flip-flop" enacted by the Department of State (DoS) and the United States Citizenship and Immigration Service (USCIS), with regards to eliminating the Green-Card processing delays, plan to send flowers to the USCIS Director, Emilio Gonzalez
Please find below/attached the article related to this.
Thanks,
******
--copy of the article and attachment--
modified some base content.How does this look?
If we individually send to all the talk show hosts we are bound to get some attention.Core group what do U think:Should this mails be sent individually by each of us or are the administrator's going to mail the talkshow hosts?
Am ready to send emails to major newspaper organisations and show hosts.
This website has links of most of the talk show hosts. Right click on the individual email links to get address.
http://www.conservativeusa.org/megalink.htm
Subject: Flowers to Convey Hopes and Concerns of Skilled, Legal Immigrants
Dear ****,
I would like to get to your attention the peaceful campaign of Hundreds of legal, highly-skilled workers, who feel disappointed by the recent "flip-flop" enacted by the Department of State (DoS) and the United States Citizenship and Immigration Service (USCIS), with regards to eliminating the Green-Card processing delays, plan to send flowers to the USCIS Director, Emilio Gonzalez
Please find below/attached the article related to this.
Thanks,
******
--copy of the article and attachment--
modified some base content.How does this look?
If we individually send to all the talk show hosts we are bound to get some attention.Core group what do U think:Should this mails be sent individually by each of us or are the administrator's going to mail the talkshow hosts?
sledge_hammer
02-12 02:31 PM
You are missing the point here again and taking whatever I said out of context!
Read the OP's issue again. She never said that she did not understand the laws fully. In fact both her and her desi consulting company know the immigration laws too well and have found loopholes to take advantage of it, which is morally wrong. Now tell me if it is wrong when I say this; If you know you are going out of status because you do not have a job, and you still do not change your status back to H4 in the hopes that you'll eventually land a job, then you have no right to stay in this country.
Please refrain from bringing in the refugees, their struggle and hardships and try to dilute what I have been saying in this entire thread!
Sledge_Hammer - You are so shallow in your thinking!
Every rule in this world has a human aspect. I urge you to grow up. Immigration rules in this country are so complex that even lawyers conflict with each other. We are simple human beings and most of the time we do not fully understand the law. Yes, it does not give us the authority to break the law, however, there are times when you become "out of status" by just sitting at home. There are times when you become victim of situation. I have 1000s of refugees in my city who flee Yugoslavia/Bosnia during ethnic cleansing/genocide of 1990s. US working with UN gave them refugee status and most of them have green cards now. Some of them lost sons, some of them lost fathers and they all have stories to tell. Do I go there with my MS/BS degree and tell them that I was in the line before and I should have gotten the GC before them? No! Do I curse the system for that? No! When countries fall apart and when morality/humanity hits the rock bottom, rules, status go right out of the window.
Please do not be so harsh on forums.
I do not have anything personal against you but there are times when you are very harsh on individuals and that changes the whole course of discussion.
Read the OP's issue again. She never said that she did not understand the laws fully. In fact both her and her desi consulting company know the immigration laws too well and have found loopholes to take advantage of it, which is morally wrong. Now tell me if it is wrong when I say this; If you know you are going out of status because you do not have a job, and you still do not change your status back to H4 in the hopes that you'll eventually land a job, then you have no right to stay in this country.
Please refrain from bringing in the refugees, their struggle and hardships and try to dilute what I have been saying in this entire thread!
Sledge_Hammer - You are so shallow in your thinking!
Every rule in this world has a human aspect. I urge you to grow up. Immigration rules in this country are so complex that even lawyers conflict with each other. We are simple human beings and most of the time we do not fully understand the law. Yes, it does not give us the authority to break the law, however, there are times when you become "out of status" by just sitting at home. There are times when you become victim of situation. I have 1000s of refugees in my city who flee Yugoslavia/Bosnia during ethnic cleansing/genocide of 1990s. US working with UN gave them refugee status and most of them have green cards now. Some of them lost sons, some of them lost fathers and they all have stories to tell. Do I go there with my MS/BS degree and tell them that I was in the line before and I should have gotten the GC before them? No! Do I curse the system for that? No! When countries fall apart and when morality/humanity hits the rock bottom, rules, status go right out of the window.
Please do not be so harsh on forums.
I do not have anything personal against you but there are times when you are very harsh on individuals and that changes the whole course of discussion.
Macaca
07-06 08:59 PM
Sure, I will join the tomorrows march organized by fightnow.
I am impressed with the Chinese!
Ask the Chinese (and everyone else) to stay tuned (and join) your meet whenever it takes place!
BTW, thanks for getting rid of msyedy! What a relief without the spectre of msyedy!
I am impressed with the Chinese!
Ask the Chinese (and everyone else) to stay tuned (and join) your meet whenever it takes place!
BTW, thanks for getting rid of msyedy! What a relief without the spectre of msyedy!
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